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Casino Guide:
Winning Casino Tokens

Version 0.8 4/3/2006
Written By : Okamotosan
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*Disclaimer* This FAQ is for personal use only. It cannot be altered,
published in any magazines, or used any reproduced form without
consent of the FAQ's owner {I'll probably say yes if you ask ;)}.
This FAQ is not meant for sale and is copyright 2005 Okamotosan. If
you want to use this FAQ on your Website or page, please e-mail me
for permission (okamotosan2003 (at) msn.com).

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This Guide uses the first method I found for gaining massive
amounts of tokens in one win. It goes through my steps at gaining
tokens from what you're given by Cash and Carrie, so purchasing of
tokens isn't neccessary.

*important* My method deals with Baccarat's Casino, but I have tips for
Pickham's casino if you aren't at this point in the game.

If anyone has alternate methods, or tips not found here, e-mail
me, and I'll be happy to take the time to look at them. If they seem
to hold up in the game, I'll add them to the guide and give proper
credit. Please tell me how you would like your name to appear (if
you'd like it to appear with your submissions). My E-mail address is
okamotosan2003 (at) msn.com

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---Table of Contents---

1.00 Baccarat's Casino - Roulette

1.10 Starting from 600 Token reward

1.20 Basics of Roulette
1.21 The Game
1.22 Types of Bets

1.30 Roulette Table Layout

1.40 First Token Winning Method
1.41 The First Bet
1.42 The Next Bets
1.43 The Middle Bet
1.44 The Higher Bets
1.45 The Highest Bets

2.00 Baccarat's Casino - Alternate Methods

2.10 Explanation

2.20 Submitted Methods
2.21 Starting with Single Bets (R/SM 100)
2.22 Starting with Low Slots (SM 10/SM 100)
2.23 Guaranteed No Reset Roulette (R)
2.24 A Different Way To Get To The Top (R)
2.25 Reds/Odds (R)

3.00 Pickham's Casino

3.10 Starting Casino

3.20 Submitted Methods
3.21 From Slots to Bingo

4.00 Tips & Hints

5.00 Casino Prizes

5.10 Baccarat's Prizes

5.20 Pickham's Prizes

6.00 Version Changes


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1.00 Baccarat's Casino - Roulette

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1.10 Starting from 600 Token Reward
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Unfortunately, you'll be resetting the game often. This can
not be avoided because the casino only contains games of chance.
On a lighter note, once you accumulate a nice sum of tokens, you
will not have to reset as often.

As one of the NPC's mentions, Roulette is where it's at. Take
your 600 tokens and head on over to the Roulette table.


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1.20 Basics of Roulette
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*This is incase you're not familiar with the game of roulette.
You can skip this if you know how this game works.

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1.21 The Game
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Roulette is a game that uses a ball which is spun around the
Roulette wheel which has many divets marked with individual
numbers. DQVIII uses the numbers 0-27.

You can place a bet of up to 500 tokens on each spot.
There are many kinds of bets that can be made on the Roulette
table. Once you are done placing your bets, the ball is spun
around the Roulette wheel

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1.22 Types of Bets
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Reference the Table Layout in Section 1.30 if you need
clarification of bets that I mention. Basically, The fewer
numbers your bet covers, the higher the payout. I'll list each
bet type and it's payout.


a.) Single Number Bets: Betting on just one number

The hardest to win, but has the highest payout. A Single
Number Bet is made by placing chips directly on the number.
Payout Ratio, 28:1.

b.) Double Number Bets: Betting on two adjoined numbers

These are bets like 1-4 or 1-2. A Double Number Bet is made
by placing chips in between the 2 numbers you are betting on.
Payout Ratio, 14:1.

c.) Quadruple Number Bets: Betting on a 2x2 square of numbers.

These are bets like 1-2-4-5. A Quadruple Number Bet is made
by placing chips in the corner that all four numbers have in
common. Note: Placing this bet on the left side of the board
changes the bet into a Triple Number Bet that has a higher
ratio and is comprised of 0 with either 1&2 or 2&3.
Payout Ratio, 7:1

d.) Column Bets: Betting on 1x3 rows.

These are bets like 1-2-3. A Column Bet is made by placing
chips on the line below the lowest number in a column.
Payout Ratio, 8:1

e.) Two Column Bets: Betting on 2 adjoined 1x3 Rows.

These are bets like 1-2-3/4-5-6. A Two Column Bet is made
by placing chips on the same line for Column Bets, in between
the two columns you are betting on. Note: Placing this bet on
the columns 0/1-2-3 gives a higher ratio.
Payout Ratio, 5:1

f.) Row Bets: Betting on 1x9 rows.

These bets are made on the right side of the table in the
box with the arrow. A bet like this could be the the row of
1-4-7-10-13-16-19-22-25.
Payout Ratio, 3:1

g.) Nonuple(nine) Number Bets: Betting on a 3x3 square of numbers.

These bets are made with the arrows on the bottom of the
table. These are bets like 1 through 9, 10 through 18, or
19 through 27.
Payout Ratio, 3:1

h.) Even or Odd Bets: Betting on all Even or Odd numbers.

These bets are made with the bottom-most boxes on the far
left or right. Evens and Odds do not cover 0.
Payout Ratio, 2:1

i.) Red or Blue Bets: Betting on all Red or Blue numbers.

These bets are made with the middle boxes in the bottom row
of the Roulette table. Reds and Blues do not cover 0.
Payout Ratio, 2:1


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1.30 Roulette Table Layout
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Here's the layout of the table:

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| | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 | 15 | 18 | 21 | 24 | 27 | < |
| |_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_____|
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| 0 | 2 | 5 | 8 | 11 | 14 | 17 | 20 | 23 | 26 | < |
| |_(B)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_____|
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| | 1 | 4 | 7 | 10 | 13 | 16 | 19 | 22 | 25 | < |
|___|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_____|
| | | |
| /\ | /\ | /\ |
|_________________|_________________|_________________|
| | | | |
| EVENS | RED | BLUE | ODDS |
|____________|_____________|_____________|____________|

*(R)=Red
(B)=Blue



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1.40 First Token Winning Method
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!!!IMPORTANT!!!
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Save before you make your first bet!


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!!!IMPORTANT!!!
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1.41 The First Bet
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The first bets you're going to make are a Row Bet and Nonuple
bet(nine squares), See Section 1.22 (f & g) for explanations. You can
make those bets on any of the choices for those kinds of bets
because it's technically the same chance with any combination of
winning.

You will bet half on each of those bets(300 tokens each). How
much you win depends on which spot wins. If the number is contained
in both bets, then you'll win 1,800 tokens, if it is just one of the
bets, you'll now have 900 tokens. Which bet you make now depends on
how much you won.

(This bet could be Nonuple 1 through 9 & Row 3-6-9-12-18-21-24-27)

If you don't win on this first bet, reset and do it again until
you do win.



This table shows where your first bets should be placed with *'s

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| | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 | 15 | 18 | 21 | 24 | 27 |* < *|
| |_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_____|
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| 0 | 2 | 5 | 8 | 11 | 14 | 17 | 20 | 23 | 26 | < |
| |_(B)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_____|
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| | 1 | 4 | 7 | 10 | 13 | 16 | 19 | 22 | 25 | < |
|___|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_(R)_|_(B)_|_(R)_|_____|
| ******** | | |
| * /\ * | /\ | /\ |
|_________________|_________________|_________________|
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| EVENS | RED | BLUE | ODDS |
|____________|_____________|_____________|____________|


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1.42 The Next Bets
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*NOTE* I recommend saving again *NOTE*


900 Tokens-

You basically do the same bet as the first
one, but the amounts are different. You can split the tokens in half
for each bet again, or you can max one with 500. Once you win this,
you should have enough for 1,800 bets.


1,800 Tokens-

You keep the two bets from the first bet,
but you add one of the Evens/Odds, or Reds/Blues. Max all three with
500 token bets. Repeat until you have at least 4,500 tokens.


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1.43 The Middle Bets
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*NOTE* You will now be maxing all bets when possible *NOTE*


4,500 Tokens-

This uses different bets. You take all the
numbers in one of the three groups of Nonuple bets, but do 9 "Single
Number Bets" with them. You can max each one with 500 tokens.


5,000 Tokens-

This uses the same bets as 4,500, but you
add the "Nonuple Bet" on the group of 9 numbers you're betting on.


6,000 Tokens-

This uses the same bets accumulated
through the 5,000 Token Bets, but you add 2 "Two Column Bets" inside
the Nonuple set you've been betting in.



4,500/5,000/6,000 Token Bets

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| | *** | *** | *** | | | | | | | |
| | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 | 15 | 18 | 21 | 24 | 27 | < |
| |_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|
| | *** | *** | *** | | | | | | | |
| 0 | 2 | 5 | 8 | 11 | 14 | 17 | 20 | 23 | 26 | < |
| |_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|
| | *** | *** | *** | | | | | | | |
| | 1 | 4 | 7 | 10 | 13 | 16 | 19 | 22 | 25 | < |
|___|____\|/___\|/____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|
| @@@@@@@@ | | |
| @ /\ @ | /\ | /\ |
|_________________|_________________|_________________|
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| EVENS | RED | BLUE | ODDS |
|____________|_____________|_____________|____________|

The *'s show the bets used for both types of bets
The @'s show the bet added for 5,000 Token bets
The \|/'s & \_/'s show the "Two Column Bets" for 6,000 Token bets


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1.44 The Higher Bets
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7,500 Tokens-

This uses all the bets made so far, and
adds the 3 "Column Bets" of the Nonuple set.


9,500 Tokens-

This uses all the bets made so far, and
adds the 4 "Quadruple Bets" contained within the Nonuple set.



7,500/9,500 Token Bets
(all lower bets cleared, but still used)

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| | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 | 15 | 18 | 21 | 24 | 27 | < |
| |____\|/___\|/____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|
| | /|\ /|\ | | | | | | | |
| 0 | 2 | 5 | 8 | 11 | 14 | 17 | 20 | 23 | 26 | < |
| |____\|/___\|/____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|
| | /|\ /|\ | | | | | | | |
| | 1 | 4 | 7 | 10 | 13 | 16 | 19 | 22 | 25 | < |
|___|_^^^_|_^^^_|_^^^_|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|
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| /\ | /\ | /\ |
|_________________|_________________|_________________|
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| EVENS | RED | BLUE | ODDS |
|____________|_____________|_____________|____________|

The ^^^'s show the bets added for 7,500 Token bets
The \|/'s show the bets added for 9,500 Token bets
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1.45 The Highest Bets
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 15,500 Tokens-

This uses all the bets made so far, and
adds the 6 horizontal "Double Number Bets" & 6 vertical "Double
Number Bets" of the Nonuple set. The payout for this bet can be
50,000 tokens!


*Optional* 16,000/16,500 Tokens- *Optional*

This uses all the bets made so far, and
adds Even/Odd and/or Red/Blue bets. This is optional because it
doesn't really help earn much, if any, more because of the 50/50
chance of them helping.


21,500 Tokens-

You probably won't be making any higher
bets. My explanation of why it isn't as useful will be at the bottom.
It is possible to make higher bets though. So you will be adding all
bets that cover even one of the numbers in the third of the board.

Bets added:

Double Number Bets: 0-1, 0-2, 0-3, 7-10, 8-11, 9-12

Quadruple Number Bets: 0-1-2, 0-2-3, 7-8-10-11, 8-9-11-12

Two Column Bets: 0/1-2-3, 7-8-9/10-11-12


The only reason you would use this bet is
if you save after every win. Using the 21,500 Token Bet you can win,
on average, 4,000 tokens more with a win. But if you continually bet
whether you win or lose, then you will be losing 6,000 tokens more
with every loss, and you will probably be losing more spins than
winning.


15,500 Token Bets
(all lower bets cleared, but still used)

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| | 3 - 6 - 9 | 12 | 15 | 18 | 21 | 24 | 27 | < |
| |__+_\|/_+_\|/_+__|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|
| | /|\ /|\ | | | | | | | |
| 0 | 2 - 5 - 8 | 11 | 14 | 17 | 20 | 23 | 26 | < |
| |__+_\|/_+_\|/_+__|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|
| | /|\ /|\ | | | | | | | |
| | 1 - 4 - 7 | 10 | 13 | 16 | 19 | 22 | 25 | < |
|___|_^^^_|_^^^_|_^^^_|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|
| | | |
| /\ | /\ | /\ |
|_________________|_________________|_________________|
| | | | |
| EVENS | RED | BLUE | ODDS |
|____________|_____________|_____________|____________|

The +'s show vertical "Double Number Bets"
The -'s show horizontal "Double Number Bets"


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2.00 Baccarat's Casino - Alternate Methods

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2.10 Explanation
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Alternate Methods will be labeled with the games they use as
follows.

R-Roulette
SM *number*- Slot Machine with bet minimum
B - Bingo

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2.20 Submitted Methods
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2.21 Starting with Single Bets (R/SM 100)
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This method uses the 600 Token reward. Place 6 Single Number
bets. Once you get a winner, you'll have 2,800 tokens. Save, then use
the 100 Token Slot Machine. Max Bet each spin. If you run out of
tokens, just reset. Once you have gained 10,000 or more, save again.
You'll be able to leave it with a turbo controller after that.

Submitted By: DarrcEnigma


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2.22 Starting with Low Slots (SM 10/SM 100)
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This method uses the 600 Token reward. Head to the 10-Token Slot
Machine blocked by a man. Talk to him and pay him to move. The payout
for this machine seems to be higher than normal. Max Bet each spin.
Once you have gained 10,000 or more, save again. Then head over to
the 100-Token Slot Machine. Max Bet each spin here as well.

Submitted By: k.carpentier@gmail.com


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2.23 Guaranteed No Reset Roulette (R)
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This method starts after you've earned or bought 2,500 Tokens.
You will be Max Betting 5 "Two Column" Bets. The Bets will be of the
columns "0/1,2,3" & "4,5,6/7,8,9" & "10,11,12/13,14,15" & "16,17,18/
19,20,21" & "22,23,24/25,26,27" Refer to Section 1.22e for help in
placing "Two Column" Bets. (Comments: You can use this method to
gain enough Tokens to play the Slot Machines, or make bigger bets.)

Submitted By: Nigganez


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2.24 A Different Way To Get To The Top (R)
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This method starts after you've obtained at least 2,500 tokens.
You first place "Two-Column Bets" that will cover two consecutive
Nonuple sets. This could be placing the "Two-Column Bets" 1-2-3/4-5-6
7-8-9/10-11-12 & 13-14-15/16-17-18. Together, those three bets will
cover two sets of nonuples. And to help the payout, you place the two
"Nonuple Number Bets" that cover the same numbers. This bet has some
good odds, so you should win pretty often, but the payout won't be as
great. You will roughly double your bet, so you can use this to get
to the Higher Bets.

Submitted By: Hug Daddy


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2.25 Reds/Odds (R)
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This method has you place max bets on Reds & Odds, then all the
Single Number Bets that are Red and Odd.

Submitted By: Spiderbushi



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3.00 Pickham's Casino

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3.10 Starting Casino
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This casino does not have the same ease of winning because of
the limited gaming choices. It is still technically possible to win
tokens here though. It's a pretty simple process, but can take a lot
of your time. Buy a few coins, maybe 100. Save your game, and come
back to the casino. I would recommend betting low enough so that you
can get 5 to 10 games out of them so you aren't resetting right away.

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3.20 Submitted Methods
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2.21 From Slots to Bingo
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It is suggested you buy enough tokens to play enough so you
don't have to reset too frequently, possibly 150. As suggested in
the Tips & Hints section, use the left-hand slot machine. Once you
have accumulated 250 tokens, you can proceed to the bingo table.
Don't forget to save. You can make five 50-token bets which has a
decent chance of gaining tokens without reseting. Once you have 500,
you can save again and start betting 100 on each bet. Then you just
stay on large bets at the bingo table to accrue your fortune of
tokens early on in the game.

Submitted By:



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4.00 Tips & Hints

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* As has been mentioned, saving often when token increases have
been made is a very good idea.

* The left-hand slot machine in the back of Pickham's Casino has
the best odds of payouts.

* -Unconfirmed- It has been mentioned that getting a Puff-Puff
from Le Club Puff-Puff can help your odds.

* Save up enough tokens to buy a mass amount of Magic Waters, and
sell them to a store for gold. They have a low sell price, but
it's tied for best sell ratio per token with the Prayer Rings.
*update* It seems selling Prayer Rings in mass amounts doesn't
lower their selling price. Again, if this needs correcting, I
would very much appreciate an e-mail.

* Having a controller with turbo can let you stay on a slot
with a heavy object holding the up button, and you will keep max
betting over and over. You can leave the game for school,
dinner, or sleeping.

* Hold down Circle when placing the largest bets on the Roulette
table. When you push the directional buttons, it'll continue
maxing bets at each spot it comes to so you can get through
placing the bets a little faster.

* Take note of any numbers that you see come up a lot on Roulette.
I placed seperate Single Number Bets while I was playing on 12,
16, 21, & 25 because they seemed to show up an unusual number of
times for me. Quite often when I lost a spin I hit one of
those numbers and only ended up losing a couple thousand tokens.
If you do find your own numbers that show up often, then this
can help make more tokens, and cut down on the number of times
you have to reset.



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5.00 Casino Prizes

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5.10 Baccarat's Prizes
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Prize Name Price Sell Price

a.) Prayer Ring 1,000 Tokens 1,500G
b.) Spangled Dress 3,000 Tokens 2,350G
c.) Saint's Ashes 5,000 Tokens 6,000G
d.) Falcon Blade 10,000 Tokens 5,000G
e.) Liquid Metal Armour 50,000 Tokens 4,750G
f.) Gringham Whip 200,000 Tokens 10,000G


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5.20 Pickham's Prizes
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Prize Name Price Sell Price

a.) Magic Water 100 Tokens 150G
b.) Silver Platter 500 Tokens 100G
c.) Agility Ring 1,000 Tokens 180G
d.) Titan Belt 1,500 Tokens 1,500G
e.) Rune Staff 3,000 Tokens 3,150G
f.) Platinum Headgear 5,000 Tokens 2,050G


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6.00 Version Changes

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Version 0.1 (12/4/2005): Introduced In-Depth Roulette Guide and basics
for other casino games.

Version 0.2 (12/8/2005): Fixed "The Highest Bets" outline number.
Added "Baccarat's Casino - Alternate Methods"
Added "Tips & Hints"
Added "Version Changes"
Added "Prize Sell Prices"

Version 0.3 (12/9/2005): Updated and Added to "Submitted Methods"
Added to "Types of Bets"

Version 0.4 (12/13/2005): Changed Title
Added to "Types of Bets"
Updated and Added to "Tips & Hints"
Added to "The Highest Bets"

Version 0.5 (1/2/2006): Fixed "The Highest Bets - 15,000 Tokens"

Version 0.6 (1/4/2006): Added to "Submitted Methods"

Version 0.7 (1/15/2006): Added to "Submitted Methods"

Version 0.8 (4/3/2006): Added "Submitted Methods" for Pickham's Casino
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